Xorg Input hotplugging and me…

Okay, whilst attempting to shirk my responsibilites (read fix pam_console’s root.audio issue (I hate sed… not so much as I hate it, as it hates me and refuses to EVER work for me properly until I have struggled with it for about 3 days) ) I saw a Planet post from Daniel Stone, about *gasp* input hotplugging in Xorg. And I thought to myself, OMG MUST HAVE NOW. So, being as I idle in #gentoo-desktop on freenode (well, not always idle, but for the most part I do) I popped open the channel, and fired off a message to Donnie and Josh, to ask them about it. Turns out, Josh (or maybe it was Donnie) had added the snapshot to Portage already (that would be xorg-server-1.2.99.0) and so being the adventurous person that I am (and never really minding a broken box) I immediately unmasked it… and fail. It didn’t want to build because of a missing $(DBUS_LIBS) (since fixed) and, then Josh mentioned to me that I will want to update my device drivers as well, to the latest - which I did, luckily, I don’t use too many, xf86-input-{keyboard,mouse,evdev}

This is where the magic starts to happen… Okay, so finally have xorg-server-1.2.99.0 installed, xf86-input-keyboard-1.2.0 installed, and the evdev and mouse… and so I fire off startx (because you know, want to make sure it even works…) and fail. With a dbus error! Oh noes! What am I to do… well, lets see, its a dbus error, restart dbus? Nah, that wouldn’t fix it, I am using the new and improved dbus, no need to restart when new configs show up… Oh, I know - does it even HAVE a config… I seem to recall the planet post mentioning something about the policy not being set in stone…. so I look in /etc/dbus-1/system.d and nope! Hrm, ok, so, is there even a config file?

Pop into ~/sandbox (which is where I store everything I want to play with (hat tip Compnerd)) and extract the xorg-server tarball to look around at the files… Success! There it is - xorg-server.conf. Pop into irc again and mention it to Josh, who promptly (or not promptly, im really not sure as I am playing with a new toy weeeeeeeeeeee!) fixes it to install. And, then I issue startx as for me, I am not gonna recompile xorg-server just to copy over a .conf file - and… SUCCESS! Woohoo… Okay, so X is working again, there is my wonderful Gnome desktop looking back at me, saying, please come play with me! And I apologize to it, and say, well, I am sorry, but I must get the input hot plugging working first…

Okay, back to the drawing board… There really isn’t much info on this aside from some posts on the mailing list and the planet posts (which, have mysteriously disappeared from my cache ) so… Google it is - aha! I need something called respeclaration… Okay, time to search it out - being as Mr. Daniel Stone is on fdo, I check there first - yep, its a git repo… great… I suck at using git… Every attempt to check it out gives me an EOF, which I have no idea what it means, aside from the fact that its NOT ON MY SYSTEM. No problem, I can just download the repo manually (yes, I will do things the hard way when I don’t want to take the time to learn yet) it is only 2 files, and really, I just recreate the Makefile manually, and download the respeclaration.c file. Pop those into the sandbox, and make… success! Woohoo… ok, so, now lets see, input hotplugging…

Okay, we open up the xorg.conf file, and…

*thinks - well, lets see what happens…*

*comments out all the input device infos*

startx

FAIL. Hmm, okay, lets try running respeclaration - oh wait, something about the dbus policy and requiring root in order to add devices - so, lets restart respeclaration as root…

sudo respeclaration –daemon 0.0 (according to the –help its –daemon displaynum)

startx

SUCCESS!

Okay… *loads up xorg.conf to verify that all input devices are in fact disabled in there* Yep… *unplugs usb mouse* *moves the usb mouse after unplugging it because sometimes when working on things I get absent minded and do the extremely obvious to make sure* Yep… *plugs the usb mouse back in and moves it… OMG MY CURSOR IS MOVING <3*

Okay, hmmm, plugs in a usb keyboard… SEGFAULT.

Okay, so input hotplugging isn’t quite ready for primetime (this is xorg 7.3 stuff we are talking about here anyways, 7.2 hasn’t even been released) - but, I want to be one of those people who really makes sure it works, because it has been something I have wanted in X for a very very long time (come on, windows has been able to do this for AGES)

Okay, so, I wanted to be really really sure, I was really doing things right, and I hopped into the xorg development channel to thank daniels, as well as verify that what I was doing was correct…. More info coming soon…

Has it really been that long since I have blogged?

Just noticed that I haven’t blogged since August - I know I posted something on my personal site, but nothing on here recently, so lets do some catchup…

DBus is rearing up and getting really close to a 1.0 release.  J5 got tired of waiting for someone to do the FreeBSD patches (and people complain about RedHat not caring about others!) and grabbed a FreeBSD LiveCD, and wrote a couple of things needed, though I believe a couple of things are still not up to snuff (by reading the postings on the ML) and I haven’t had a chance to play with any of it at all.

Someone named SaintDev has popped into the Gentopia channel “recently” (is it really recently, I don’t honestly pay as much attention to IRC as I used to these days, Email is probably better to get ahold of me)  and has been working on the Gentoo backend for NetworkManager.  Speaking of which - I am planning on getting a cvs snapshot into Gentopia’s overlay soon.

Speaking of the overlay - we are no longer on gentooexperimental.org (though many many thanks to BonsaiKitten for hosting us for so long!)  and are now on the official Gentoo site - http://overlays.gentoo.org - No, most of our trac/wiki items are not ported over to it, but the overlay itself is - so those of you who think we have been lying dormant…  we haven’t - at least, not entirely

Also on the DBus front… dbus-sharp… there are new managed bindings, and apparently, a few apps use them already, though alp says they aren’t really ready for prime time.  I haven’t looked into them at all honestly.  And, we also have in Gentopia, the bindings from the previous version of DBus - well, the last monolithic release.  These are not spectacular, and really, even though I wrote the ebuild for them, Genstef is the one who imported them (from my own personal overlay) - and as much as I don’t want to support them, any testing is greatly appreciated.  Assuming we go ahead and put both these, and the other dbus bindings into portage (possibly slotted, possibly just finally kicking the old bindings in the junk) then we can (finally) unmask dbus .9x which is what people have been asking for.

Other than that, on my end, not a whole lot is new.  Oh, I was supposed to goto the Google SoC Mentor Summit, but due to my pos car dying on the way to the airport, I missed my flight.  Leslie even tried to get me onto a later flight, but to no avail.  Alas, I did not get to meet the enthralling Christel, and try to take advantage of her :(  Oh well, there is always next year!

I have been mainly focusing on work related things lately.  I work for a company that has been around for, quite a while - in fact, at one point there were 100 employees, however, we have downsized (quite a bit!) and there are currently 8 total employees, and most of our sales is done by channel partners (about 70) and one main person here at our office.   Since there is only 8 of us, we all pretty much wear many hats here at work, with mine being mostly technical support for both our Windows clients, and our Linux servers.  Also programming, and research.  At the moment, I am trying to formulate the best way to sync our servers against our database (it syncs against the database and writes a flat file currently - WHEN it actually syncs.)  One thing we want, is the ability to “turn it off” - for example, we have customers who continue to use our machines after ending the contracts with us (and they don’t ship the hardware back to us - but we are working on it!) and so the ability to turn off them getting updates is an important feature.  Currently, my thinking is, rsync, with X.509 certificates, and generating the certificate to be valid for as long as the contract with us is initially, and if they renew, then generate a new certificate for them.  To that end, I have been looking into various ways of making it easier to generate and control them, as it needs to be easy for anyone else, who may follow in my footsteps (not that they would have huge shoes to fill ) or anyone else here who may have not a clue what they are doing, but can follow a few points and clicks.  Recently, Odyssi was pointed out to me, anyone have any experience with it?  Or know of something along those lines?  Or hell, if you do any rsyncing with authentication, what has worked for you, and what hasn’t - this is the research I am currently doing.

Also, I have picked up a few packages from Seemant recently, as he was simply proxy maintaining them, and I happen to use some of them for my job.  A few of which have some bugs that I have noticed from using them at work (if you use sqsh, don’t enter $ and hit enter!) and I haven’t gotten around to fixing them.  I keep meaning to, but just really busy at work lately, as others have been out sick, and then I was out sick.  Wireless still isn’t working at home, I think I may just bite the bullet and buy a new wireless AP - either that, or get an Atheros based PCI card to put into my pfSense box (or get a WRAP) and use it.  Since wireless isn’t working, I tend to not use the laptops as much at home, since I don’t like to be tethered there.

Work bought me an AMD64 machine as an upgrade for my workstation.  I am having fun learning about all the cool new features (and Firefox compiles in about 30 minutes!)  and I can definitely tell that the response time is better.  Expect some ~amd64 lovin on some packages I add to Portage that aren’t already in now!

I think that pretty much brings us up to speed.  Not sure if I forgot anything.  Lemme know if you have any questions about anything!

Warning to KDE users…

I have p.masked dbus .91/.92 in Portage.  So what does that mean?  For Gnomies, nothing, just another version, but for KDE users, your desktop… well, if you unmask it, I am not cleaning up after you :)  Seriously, the qt3 bindings are a backport and well, they have changed quite a bit, and as far as I can tell are as unmaintained as the qt3 bindings that were in CVS and upstream doesn’t support them.  Sorry.  Seriously, I am, I really wish it wasn’t this way, because it holds up Gnome waiting for someone to pick up the slack of KDE.  So, if you use any apps that use qt3 D-Bus bindings, please, check your package.unmask file and make sure you aren’t unmasking dbus.  It will save you a lot of trouble.  Now, if you are one of those qt4 people (why I wouldn’t know, but apparently there are people who dig KDE… )  you can now compile qt4’s dbus bindings because they *should* compile against dbus .91/.92.  I am working on an upgrade guide, but I am also attempting to move the Gentopia stuff from gentooexperimental.org over to overlays.gentoo.org, so it isn’t a priority - at least, not yet.

That is all.

My Overlay

So, just about every developer has an overlay, and I am no different.  I actually have around 4 different overlays, that I put things in - things for my computer at work, things that I test before putting into portage, things that I test before putting into Gentopia, and things that I just all around test.  Then I have the other overlays that other people have provided as well.  Well, when Google announced project hosting, I headed on over there and signed myself up for hosting, mainly because of subversion access.  I combined all my overlays into one (almost - I left out the sexy-fonts overlay due to the questionable nature of some of the patches wrt patents) and committed them.  Now it is your turn.  You get to use my overlay finally.  One thing that may be of interest that is in there, is the latest hal, and dbus - which is split out.  Also, there are a few packages in there with patches that are required for the new dbus, since there is one minor change that some apps require (and I haven’t submitted the patches to bugzilla just yet as I am still testing everything out)

Now, I am sure you are wondering, what is the url?  I am getting to that - but the thing is - because of the new dbus in there, I need to provide some instructions.  Mainly because this DOES cause breakage.  Your apps WILL stop working.  I do have a mono bindings snapshot ebuild in there, as well as qt3 bindings (both ebuilds are probably horribly written so now is your time to shine ) — You WILL need to run a revdep-rebuild after installing the new dbus.  It WILL fail to build apps that actually SHOULD build fine against the new dbus, mainly because for whatever reason (I am guessing the –alphabetical flag) it builds the packages in the incorrect order.  So, after you emerge dbus, the FIRST package you should re-emerge is hal, then avahi if you use it, and THEN everything else should emerge fine - if you have any issues with any packages, take a walk through the overlay, I should have a few apps in there with patches.  Anything that uses the mono dbus bindings will have to be rebuilt - Tomboy is in this list (I *love* tomboy) - and it has been working just fine for me for the past few days, so that is good.  NetworkManager also needs to be rebuilt, dhcdbd needs to as well (Both have patches in Gentopia already but without a revbump as it isn’t truely required unless you are building against dbus .91 (and works fine if you are using dbus .62))

If you have any issues with anything in my overlay, use the issue tracker that Google provides for the “project” - Thanks.

(finally)

My Overlay

Love dbus? Love mono? Please help!

Okay, as some of you may know, dbus had a new release…  I know some of you are screaming ZOMG its been out for like, a week, why isn’t it in portage yet!?  The answer is quite simple.  There is no upstream maintainer for mono bindings for dbus - also, there are no qt3 bindings.   Both of those are a bit of a deal breaker for me - I *need* the mono bindings for apps that I use on a daily basis.  The main application being Tomboy notes.  So please, if you know mono, and you love dbus, try to give the bindings some love, or help us find someone who can.  I will probably put the new dbus in p.masked as the bindings are split out now - so dbus itself will become a meta package, and the use flags will pull in the various bindings.  The bindings that DO exist for it currently, are - python, glib, perl, java 1.4 and java 1.5 - qt4 does have the bindings, but they are in the qt package itself now as of 4.2.  I need to talk to the java herd^Wteam (to be all politically correct and make people feel warm and fuzzy inside) and see how exactly to go about doing the java bindings as I don’t use them myself.

So, again, please help us get  some mono bindings love!

Hackergotchi

So, apparently, the planet wants people to see us (oh noes!) and I figure, I might as well allow everyone to bask in the (inner) beauty that is me…

But, I suck at graphics, always have… Can someone maybe hook me up with a hackergotchi from this image

http://dev.gentoo.org/~steev/files/hacker.jpg

Greatly appreciated

Edit: Firstly, thank you for the 2 submissions so far - I realize thats not the greatest picture in the world (I was holding the camera myself, and it was a few years ago)  There are 2 additional pictures of me at http://dev.gentoo.org/~steev/files/ one is named Misc\ 103.jpg the other is named medium_pimpin.jpg (you’ll see)

Please help…

So, thanks to a local LUG member, I have a “new” Dell Inspiron 8100.  I had to buy a new motherboard for it though - and it is a C800 motherboard.  The shell and keyboard however are fromt he 8100.  This thing is awesome… But I have one major problem… zsh.

I simply cannot get zsh to work properly with it.  Actually everything works spectacularly, except for the home and end keys.  And it is different between terminals.  xterm is the only one that works perfectly.

http://pastebin.ca/83446

That is the output when I hit home/end in mrxvt, xterm, and gnome-terminal.  As previously mentioned, only xterm works properly when I hit home/end.

http://dev.gentoo.org/~steev/files/screenshots/homend.png

This is a screenshot of hitting home/end in gnome-terminal.

Any help getting this working is greatly appreciated - the zshrc file I use, can be found at

http://dev.gentoo.org/~steev/files/zshrc

ZOMG… Welcome to 1986

So…. I finally came out of the dark ages today… To be fair, I came out of them before, but went back in because it wasn't worth it before…

So what did I do?  I got a cell phone.  Mainly because I have a job that I actually care about now, and I would like them to get ahold of me easier than just IMing me or emailing me when needed.  For those interested, I work for AIMConnect, and I love it there.

 I went with Cricket Wireless, as they seemed to have the best deal for my needs.  $45USD per month, and unlimited nights and weekends, as well as unlimited days…  In other words, I can make a call at any time, day or night, and not pay more than I normally will.  That works for me.  The phone is nothing spectacular, it is a Kyocera Dorado, or something along those lines.  It was $110USD and first month free.

If anyone needs to get ahold of me, simply IM me and I would be more than willing to give you my phone number, assuming I know you somewhat

That is all for now - Will have more soon.  Promise (and more Gentoo related as well) 

Requesting some infos…

Why hello everyone out there in Gentoo land

 Just a request for information (lots of it actually, as much as possible )

What I am looking for is, if you are using a USB Keyboard or mouse, and you have hal installed, I would like the following informations

From either lshal or using the hal-device-manager,

select your usb keyboard/mouse (or find it in the output)

info.udi, info.product, usb_device.{device_revision_bcd,product,product_id,speed_bcd,vendor,vendor_id,version_bcd}

Also, if you have to use xmodmap, or you have it setup in your xorg.conf - the various configurations that you use.  Please send them to my email address steevatgentoodotorg :)  I am trying to gather as many of these various device informations as much as possible - and if you aren't using Gentoo, and you read this planet, or this blog - any Linux distro where you can easily get this information, those informations would also be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance everyone who responds! 

Is it a bug and if so, where?

I have an iomega clik! drive (now renamed to PocketZIP) - pcmcia, 40mb little tiny thing - used to work fine with 2.4 kernels, but I haven’t messed with things too much, and the last version of udev didn’t create the /dev/hde and /dev/hde4 (for some reason it only uses /dev/hde4) so I have upgraded udev and the devices were created!

but all was not well.

http://en.pastebin.ca/51586

This is the output I get - note that the part where it kept talking about various filesystems being missing, that was me attempting “pmount-hal /the/hal/udi” at which point in time, udev went into overdrive trying to exec that hal-unmount.sh (why!?)

Also, I use a pcmcia orinoco wifi card, notice that as soon as I plugged it in, the networking dropped. Am I missing something in my pcmcia config? In order to get networking back, I had to remove all pcmcia devices (the orinoco and the clik! drive) and then rmmod all the pcmcia modules, and modprobe yenta_socket again. Any help?